Why submarine called boat

The best a boat has is dinghies or liferafts etc. Consequently a submarine does NOT carry life boats. There are many broader requirements Size and the ability to navigate very heavy seas, such as those whipped up by a tropical Revolving storm TRS. It must be designed to travel in the open sea in all weather conditions and have lifeboats that can do the same. They carry cargo or passengers and have a substantial crew to operate it including engineers.

As far as the Edmund Fitzgerald is concerned, these vessels are an enigma. They were large and qualify in most areas, but — was it capable of going to sea and did it have sea-going lifeboats? Ironically it suffered probably as bad a storm as it would have done at sea. The problem is that in fresh water the waters are more treacherous than salt water as they rise up far more quickly.

Yes it was a large vessel but was it a Ship —? Being the son of a WW II submariner. My dad cruised the Atlantic of the east coast of US and in many conversations about the war he always called his boat a boat never a ship.

Thats it!! The simplest and most accurate definition I stay with is that a ship can carry a boat but a boat cannot carry a ship. Thank you for the information. My husband won this discussion. I am terrified of the ocean or even a small lake. You have my utmost respect for your sacrifice. I love seafood but would never know the pleasure of eating it without you brave souls. Thank you. There is the Boat of Millions of years,which is a very advanced spacecraft able to.

The argument regarding leaning into or out of a turn is an interesting idea, however this may have more to do with hull and propulsion characteristics than vessel construction. In reality, as with most nautical expressions, whatever feels best to use is probably best and relying on the opinion of a sailor, with regards to an explanation of nautical expressions, puts you at the mercy of a sharp sense of humour.

There are two points on every vessel. Center of buoyancy and center of gravity. Anyone can answer me why we only know the bareboat charter for any size of the ship? It never mentions bareship charter? Except a kayak or canoe is like a ship — cg is above cb. If you get a ruddered kayak up to speed and hit the rudder hard it will heel outward like a ship.

This is exactly the problem with trying to make one pithy statement to define a ship or boat. It is far more complex than that. I completely agree with you that the difference between a ship and a boat is the size. One of my friends have a boat, she bought it from Boat Lagoon Yachting. Thanks for sharing! Obviously, some subs are one or the other regardless of whether you can stuff a non-inflatable life boat inside. I will take a shot at this.

The word marine is redundant before ship and boat. This does leave the possibility of not being a river boat but a marine boat. I would use the expression sea-going boat. Marine craft is a useful expression when there is a need to make it cleat that you are not referring an aircraft, space craft etc. On a general note there are no absolute rules or definition.

All we can do is give examples of how the words are used. Companies, governments, navies and anyone else are free to make gheir own definitions but nobody else is bound by them. I served on the U. With many years of sailing lakes to blue water sailing and large power yachts I can offer this for abot of levity.

The Flying Sub also had an inflatable Zodiac,so both could be considered Life saving vessels. Plus,it was really cool! Can be as difficult as we want. As others have stated, A ship will lean away from its turn. However, ferries are always boats but nowadays are often as large as cruise ships and carry lifeboats.

A ship can carry a boat but a boat cannot carry a ship. William Gosling, Niederkorn, Luxembourg One answer is that a ship can carry a boat, but a boat cannot carry a ship. Another is that a ship's captain gets annoyed if you refer to his vessel as a boat, but a boat's captain does not get annoyed if you refer to his vessel as a ship.

Brian Robinson, Brentwood, Essex A boat is a ship when it is so big that you can put a boat on it! Royal Navy submarines are, however, always termed boats. Chris Nutt, Cambridge, Cambs There are two explanations given for this, the first is "A boat is a craft that can be hoisted aboard a ship"; as early submarines could. The other is "A vessel with only one deck is a boat, more than one - it's a ship"; although large modern subs I imagine have more than one deck.

Keith Pettitt, Crewe, Cheshire Simplistically, a ship can carry a boat, but a boat cannot carry a ship. But you could debate this for a long time. I have done. To quote a friend and Ship Science graduate that I have posed this question to in the past: "There's no right answer because there are always exceptions. The ship carrying a boat thing works a bit but not for a fishing boat, for example.

A ship is generally an ocean going vessel but then that doesn't work for submarines which are always boats. Or over t, always exceptions to that too! A sailing ship is one that has 3 or more masts with yards crossing them - but i don't suppose that helps much!

Please note, a submarine is always referred to as a boat. Clive Palmer, Yeovil, Somerset You can put a boat on a ship but you can't put a ship on a boat. Owens, London, UK None of the forgegoing answers account for the fact that a "skiff" a small boat is etymologically the same as "ship", and can be hoisted aboard many larger vessels. The precise and pedantic definition of a ship is a vessel with no fewer than three masts, all of which carry square-rigged sails.

All other vessels are separately defined. Most of the vessels we would nowadays designate as "ships" are correctly "Motor Vessels". Paul Thompson, Perth, Scotland Nothing to do with size.. The function of a boat happens on its deck, the function of a ship happens inside it! Hence the movie Das Boot. I don't think whether one fits into another has anything to do with it" There is a more technical definition: "On a boat the centre of gravity is below the freeboard, on a ship it is above.

In practice this means a boat, such as a submarine, will lean into a curve when turning while a ship will lean out. A ship will heel outward during a turn, a boat will turn inward during a turn. In other terms, a motorcycle will lean inward during a turn, a car, truck, etc. Same concept for ship vs. Although, I do like the 'function' explanation - boat on deck, ship below deck.

Eve, sydney Australia A ship weighs more than gross tons - ergo a boat is anything smaller! CJ, barlby UK I was led to believe that no formal qualification was needed to sail or operate a boat as in speed boat but in order to be in charge of a ship a formal captains creditation must be obtained and all ships must carry a bona fide qualified captain,who then has the powers to perform wedding ceremonies, sea burials and the power of imprisonment whilst on board a ship.

I look forward to people's views on this response. This answer from ny nephew who just graduated from the Royal Navy College. Sandman, St. Another way to sink a carrier is with aircraft carrying rockets and bombs.

All 40 aircraft, while capable of carrying bombs and rockets, could probably do some damage to temporarily interrupt flight operations on a full-size nuclear aircraft carrier, but by no means could sink it.

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